Today, after reading some war poetry, an Israeli student and I engaged in some heated discussion about post 9-11 politics.
That's the kind of shit you can't make up.
The poems are part of my syllabus in English Composition II, Writing on Literature. I teach the course at McDaniel, and this semester I choose to focus on the literature of war. We start with "The Iliad" and finish with "The Things They Carried". It's a wild ride.
To find poetry, I took a random swat at stuff lying around on the Internet. The last few that we read are very contemporary, and the last two are a bit political. The first is "
Then we got to "The Daisy Cutter". Now, I don't really like the poem, but I felt I should include at least one straight-up anti-war poem. (I did have them read Crane's "War is Kind", but that poem is more about the contradictory nature of the way we understand and rationalize war. It frowns on our insincerity in times of war, but I don't think it condemns war outright.) I am a bit uncomfortable with the preachy sarcasm and the prescriptive theme in "The Daisy Cutter", but I thought opening by drawing a parallel between the Taliban and a Christian martyr was interesting. The poem ends up suggesting that going to war after 9-11 was a shallow effort at revenge. Maybe not the most profound stuff, but it gets freshmen talking. Anyway, Avi couldn't stand it. He suggested that I would burn such verse if I had lost a family member in the attacks. We went round and round for a bit. I suggested his point of view was myopic. He told me Americans don't understand the enemy. I asked if he were accused of murder, would he want the grieving mother to serve as the judge in his case. Eventually we had to bring things to a close, but I thought I'd share.
Now here's some Willie.
1 comment:
i guess it's like we agree, "killing is wrong". and then we agree "two wrongs don't make a right". so going to war to make peace is like fucking for abstinence. i've no doubt the war in iraq will go down as completely ineffective at stopping terrorist plots against the US, as no direct evidence will be shown to prove that it has stopped a single terrorist plot. waring in iraq is about being in control of the middle east.
america has a new war on terror.
israel has a old war on terror.
who's doing a better job? is either country winning? are we learning from israel's mistakes?
can we compare the methods either country is using to find out which are most against terrorists?
i'm glad that Avi has you for a teacher, and that you have Avi for a student. much to learn from each other. (remember what we thought of the world at 18 hogan)
it's many thousands of such interactions that help the people from different countries understand how to get into the enemies shoes, and see the fight from another perspective. not to justify the enemies position/methods, but to actively debate and discuss the situation overall.
no sweeping politics under the rug in the class room!
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